School Start Times: Superintendent Floats Proposal To Start Elementary Schools Earlier, Followed by High School and Saxe

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Local elementary schools could start as early as 7:30 a.m., with New Canaan High School starting later in the morning and all of Saxe Middle School starting last, under a new proposal that Superintendent of Schools Dr. Bryan Luizzi unveiled Monday night.

Citing anecdotal evidence that younger children tend to tire in the afternoon, Luizzi said the proposed new system—suggested by New Canaan Public Schools Transportation Coordinator Roy Walder—could largely preserve the current and cost-effective three-tier busing system, though it also comes with tradeoffs.

“I’m not going to say this is the scenario I am recommending yet, because there is more work to be done,” Luizzi told members of the Board of Education at their regular meeting, held in the Wagner Room at New Canaan High School and attended by about 25 parents.

“But I want to share it with you because work is being done and continues to be done. The magnitude of the change—it moves everybody. There is nobody who is in the same place in terms of the schools, the kids, the families. So it is about as significant a change in terms of the start as you can get.”

Under the current system, high school students and those in the seventh and eighth grade at Saxe start school at 7:30 a.m., while South School students and fifth- and sixth-graders at Saxe all start at around 8:15 to 8:20 a.m., and East and West Schools students start at 9:05 a.m.

Under the new system that Luizzi cautioned is being considered on a preliminary basis now, the elementary school students could start earliest—perhaps 7:30, 7:35 or 7:40 a.m., he said—with high school students starting through a second tier of busing, and Saxe Middle School last.

The major challenge at Saxe, he said, is the “facility and the parking and the dismissal,” he said.

“Literally, the facility itself is not large enough to have one dismissal of students. You just can’t get all the buses there. If you staggered it the way that I just mentioned—the elementary in the morning, then the high school and the middle school— what you could look to do, and again this is very preliminary—but possibly we think is you would have the buses bring the elementary students home and then some would come to the high school, the majority would come to the high school to bring the high school students home, but you would have some additional buses. Those buses would go over to Saxe and ‘stage,’ essentially. Then the first buses that complete the runs from the high school would then go over to Saxe, and you would have a first wave of bus dismissal. Then those students would be dismissed and their buses would leave, then the other buses move in as a second wave of dismissal. So essentially students would be in either the first wave of dismissal or the second wave. Those students in the first wave of dismissal we would look to make those the students with the furthest ride out after school. So those that live the furthest from Saxe. The second wave would be those that are closest to Saxe, so that students generally would be getting at the home same time. Because you don’t have another school or another tier waiting for those Saxe buses to come back around, it is possible to do this in two waves.”

The proposal marks the first time that the district has outlined a possible new plan to parents who, citing established health data, have been eager to see the Board of Ed make headway toward a new system under which adolescents are not forced to wake up so early to attend school.

Some of those parents addressed the Board on later school start times during a public comment period at the meeting. They urged the Board to work more quickly toward a solution, requested that the Board move up a target June date to make its decision, estimate the costs associated with a recommended change and form a working committee that includes parents—a group originally slated to form last fall.

Melanie Keene, a parent of a South School student with younger children to come up through the system, said she appreciated the Board’s work and urged it to “look at the impact to all students” on starting school earlier, including those as young as four years old, and to “make sure that where there is not a lot of data, that we are not jumping to conclusions about how elementary school students … may be impacted by an earlier start time.”

Luizzi acknowledged that the formal research administrators have seen regarding the effects of early start times have to do with adolescent students starting around eighth grade. 

“We are very aware of not doing anything that would disadvantage any of our students,” he said. 

The district has asked a consulting firm to do some “meta analysis for us about the impact of start times on elementary-age students.”

“Preliminarily they echoed what our findings have been, which is that it’s very sparse, there is not much out there,” he said. “But we also agree that the lack of research also does not mean carte blanche, so we are really looking to see what else we can find and try if we cannot get some hard data, at least have some anecdotal conversations with some districts that have made changes.”

The proposed change presents some difficult questions for the district, Luizzi said, including a decision on just how early the first pickup for elementary schools should be. It also would come with some expense, as additional buses would be needed to transport South School students who currently are walking to school so that they’re not doing that in the dark.

“There is also quite a bit of coordination that would have to occur,” he said. “Right now we have a sizable group of students who go after school from the elementary and middle schools over to the Y. We would have to work with them and coordinate with them and really all service providers who work with our students after school. We are really talking about for East and West, instead of dismissing at 3:35, they are looking at an hour-and-a-half earlier, that is really a significant jump in time. So the community and service providers and others would need to know and work need to work and talk with them.”

Luizzi called Walder’s proposal a “fifth option,” in addition to the four that a consultant presented in November in order to sketch out baseline costs and challenges for the district. 

One advantage of the proposal is that it would mean students do not have to dismissed early in order to participate in athletics.

“It would be difficult to recommend a schedule where it means students would automatically be missing classes, because that is our core mission, that is what we got into education to do, first and foremost,” Luizzi said.

Another advantage is that it addresses concerns around middle school-age kids by putting them in the third tier, shifting clubs and activities to a before-school activity instead of after school, he said.

“It also serves to do an important thing which is it compresses the time for middle school children, between the end of the school day and dinner time,” the superintendent said. “And as educators and research actually shows that that time between the end of the school day and dinner time at home is a time where middle school students have time to make bad decisions. So the more you can compress that time and have meaningful activities for students to be involved in, and this way they would be in school, the better.”

Luizzi said the proposal shows “some promise” but that the Board’s job now is to “punch holes in it,” figure out what difficulties could arise from the new system and address them.

Board of Ed Chair Brendan Hayes said, “I think it’s great to have this as a  potential scenario that we could evaluate in the coming months and make sure we take down all potential issues from various constituencies and make sure that if we make a change that impacts every single one of the students in the district, that it’s the right one.”

Board of Ed Secretary Jennifer Richardson asked Luizzi when the new proposal could be implemented if it’s found to be sound. He said though something may be done in the middle of the next academic year “if we wanted to be aggressive,” that “reasonably I think you could say the 2020 school year.”

Noting that June has been pencilled in as a “distant date” for the Board to make a decision, Richardson called for a “punch list of what we need to cover in our meetings that will be able to make us feel as though a good decision.”

Luizzi responded that June was selected “so that board at that point has enough info accumulated to make an informed decision about this or that way or neither at this time.”

“Certainly not going to hold anything back and wait to June if we have it,” he said.

Board of Ed member Sheri West said, “I think in order for us as a Board to demonstrate our urgency, I do think we need a timeline. There are six months between now and June, so we should be able to communicate to the public exactly what is going to happen between now and June to get us to the point where we can make this informed decision.”

4 thoughts on “School Start Times: Superintendent Floats Proposal To Start Elementary Schools Earlier, Followed by High School and Saxe

  1. So this new option would take very young children, who we all know need more sleep, and have then start school a full 90 minutes earlier than the current practice. Sounds like the new option substitutes one affected group for another affected group…without any empirical data to support the new option.

    • I think many feel that 7:30 am is too early for elementary students to start school in New Canaan, and I believe the district is exploring additional options. However, our Superintendent has mentioned that he received feedback from teachers at East & West schools that they feel an earlier start/dismissal would benefit the learning of their students. In regards to the “substitutes one affected group for another” I thought that too until I learned that, unlike teens who have a biological sleep shift making it difficult to fall asleep early, many doctors suggest that elementary age children can fall asleep early enough in the evening to get their required 9-12 hours of sleep.

      This seems a great opportunity for our district to find school start times that don’t cause elementary students to start “too” early while possibly better aligning with their optimal learning times along with meeting the medical association guidelines for an 8:30 am high school start time that allows teens to get 8 hours of sleep a night…what’s surprising is that most teens can only get 8 hours due to shifts in sleep patterns even with an 8:30 am start time….and teens have a requirement of 8-10 hours of sleep a night.

  2. I grew up in town, and now am raising my young family here. I lived very close to NCHS, got a ride to school in the morning but walked home in the afternoon. I do not remember struggling to get up in the morning, but I very much remember my parents strictly enforcing curfew and bedtimes. I was in bed and asleep every night at 9:30/10pm… every week night (I did activities, and had a social life) in case you were wondering…. and managed homework load too. I dont recall feeling sleep deprived, and I’m curious what time kids are going to bed these days? Are they making the most of their free time to allow for things to get done and decent bedtime? I have a 2nd grader and a daughter entering Kindergarten in the fall… and I am very much against a significant change to the start for elementary school. My kids sleep from 730-730 every night and I dont want to take that away from them. Also, as a working parent, we get home every night at 6pm and find a way to have a healthy meal together, baths and wind down in time for that bedtime and making the most of the time without sacrificing sleep. So…. I just hope there is a compromise so that ALL school aged kids benefit from whatever change is implemented.

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